Scottish based writer and creative Jamie Mackinlay set up the “Just get a real job” podcast in 2020 for anyone interested in the creative industries, especially those at the start of their careers.

In this fourth live streamed interview of Pure Talks season 4, Jamie will be talking to Pure Founder Lesley Samms about what made him start a podcast, why podcasting, what he has learned from setting it up and all the guests he has interviewed so far - 60 at last count!

For more on Jamie, check out his Instagram and Linktree